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Post by Ibrahimi on Nov 11, 2011 18:17:59 GMT -5
Quranism to me is following the Quran alone for our religious guidance. But we must understand the Arabic it uses according to how the Arabs of the past understood and used Arabic. Hadeeths are rumor. THey can be true, but unless they are mutawaatir in some way they cannot be considered historically accurate. If they a mutawaatir hadeeth contradicts another mutawaatir narration or the Quran (which is also a mutawaatir narration) then it is canceled out and not considered true. Hadeeth to me have historical authority if they are mutawaatir and linguistic authority no matter what their classification. However, they cannot give new interpretations to Classical Arabic words, and none can be taken as a religious authority
Godbless
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Post by hawkwind on Nov 13, 2011 16:08:27 GMT -5
There is no such thing as Quaranism. No such thing as a Shia, Wahhabi or Sunni. No such thing as Black Muslim or Khilafa movement! There are Muslims who bow their heads to Allah and I and you should submit our wills to the will of Allah. Ameen.
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Post by Ibrahimi on Nov 13, 2011 23:01:09 GMT -5
Hawkind,
All those things you mention actually do exist. But you are right that the main point is for us to bow in submission to God
Godbless
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Post by lilly on Jul 7, 2012 20:26:46 GMT -5
Who says we should understand Arabic in order to understand God's word and follow it?
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Post by halali on Nov 29, 2012 0:52:46 GMT -5
I have struggled with the admonisment to know Arabic. I was born in America and only know about a dozen Arabic words. I love Allah SWT with my whole being. I am modest, dressing mostly like my Muslim friends.
I sure hope that someone starts responding to my posts, Inshallah.
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Post by Ibrahimi on Dec 5, 2012 22:41:29 GMT -5
Halali,
Sorry, this forum is not very populated. I was born in America too. I learned Arabic in various institutes. Even with all i know (and I know quite alot), there is still a lot of wisdom and insight that comes with being familiar with classical arabic literature and reading he lexicons (I peruse lisanul-Arab very often, especially when there is something in the Quran that is not clear to me). Many Quranists don't know how to do this and it limits their understandings. I always adivse with what the Quran says. It says don't follow what you don't have knowledge of, so if you don't know about it, don't worry. But take everything other Muslims tell you with a grain of salt unless they can quote you a linguistic source, point you to a good dictionary or even a grammar book.
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Post by fye on Jul 26, 2013 3:55:28 GMT -5
Quranism to me is following the Quran alone for our religious guidance. But we must understand the Arabic it uses according to how the Arabs of the past understood and used Arabic. Hadeeths are rumor. THey can be true, but unless they are mutawaatir in some way they cannot be considered historically accurate. If they a mutawaatir hadeeth contradicts another mutawaatir narration or the Quran (which is also a mutawaatir narration) then it is canceled out and not considered true. Hadeeth to me have historical authority if they are mutawaatir and linguistic authority no matter what their classification. However, they cannot give new interpretations to Classical Arabic words, and none can be taken as a religious authority Godbless i have a question for you sorry if it's a bit direct, do you simply believe in the quran only? i noticed you depart from the arabic Allah and state god. i'm looking at the best measure of your quranism do you follow the examples of the prophets meantioned in the quran, in accordance with the command "obey Allah and his messenger"? if so i would like to lean more about your faith this is a very interesting subject a word i haven't heard much before. |
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Post by Ibrahimi on Oct 16, 2013 16:55:37 GMT -5
I'm sorry that i never got back to you fye. I dont' think that this message registered as a new one. So here are the answers to your questions. In it's exact authenticity and its role as a looking glass into all things, yes. That's because Allah is God in English and I prefer to use English terms when speaking in English, so as to not unnecessarily alienate or create confusion. Yes, I believe this to be the most correct approach. However, we are also told that each prophet's followers were given a particular shir3ah, i.e. customary practices and these are not binding on the followers of other prophets of God, God bless them. But I do agree with this approach, as the Quran says that he spoke to us and gave us examples to follow and lessons to learn from. . Sure thing! Continue to ask away. Again I apologize for not having answered you earlier. Godbless Read more: www.quranists.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=quranism&action=post&thread=1&page=1#ixzz2hvMEvDJr |
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Post by Michael on Oct 18, 2013 14:34:49 GMT -5
Hello. I have been a seeker for much of my life. I have recently began studying the Qur'an and it has become something that I am quite drawn to. I was blown way about how the Qur'an was so different than the Islam we (USA) have been shown. I have wanted to speak to others around me about this but as I am in the Bible belt raised eyebrows are met at the mere mention of something positive regarding Islam. I see the difference between what is perceived as Islam in relation to the Qur'an as that between many Christian denominations and the teaching of Jesus. Unfortunately far apart. I have tried to look for mosques or Islamic centers near by. (There are two. Each about an hour away in different directions.) But am concerned that I would encounter an non Qur'anist (more "traditional") group that may not be open to my questions or thoughts. Plus I have heard of some not being particularly welcoming of those of European heritage.
I'm not sure that there is anything more to say than that, but I just wanted to thank you for your site and the information you help provide. Peace be with you.
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Post by Ibrahimi on Oct 19, 2013 11:05:08 GMT -5
Peace,
Thank you, that is very much appreciated. Also I would say that it is not true that mosques are not welcoming of people with European heritage. Because the truth is that most Arabs actually have substantial amounts of European heritage that many are not aware of. And some mosques are run by people of European heritage, like Bosnian mosques, Turkish mosques etc. If you walk in there with a Kufi on your head they will accept you all the same. If you walk in only with a suit and a tie or a t-shirt and jeans they may look at you strange because it is customary for Muslims to wear things that identify themselves as Muslims when in groups of other Muslims. It is not your European heritage that they are worried about but rather if they perceive you as a fellow Muslim.
I would check out the mosques anyway but 99.9 percent of mosques in the US and the world are NOT Quranist or Quran-only leaning, but will represent the traditional forms of Islam found in the world. I will tell you that it is rather difficult being a Quranist. Traditionalist Muslims of all folds don't like or accept the questioning and Quranists only have a stronghold online. Even with that said online Quranists are completely divided and overly diverse (and perverse) concerning their opinions on both the teachings within the Quran and how to understand the language that the Quran is in.
I am glad I have been of some help to you. God bless you in your journey following only the Quran, studying it and trying to comprehend its teachings and practice its religion. It has indeed been a struggle for me trying to do this and coexist with the larger Eurocentric Judaeo-christian American population and with those of our brethren in Islam who also claim to espouse and follow the Quran, of course along with their other (non-quranic and often anti-quranic) sources.
Peace be with you as well!
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